Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Your in-game name: Jesse James Staff members name: Exultant Staff member SteamID(http://steamidfinder.com/): http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198157309772 Explain what happened: So this annoying little kid (edit: the annoying little kid is NOT exultant, someone random) was playing as hitman and kept coming up to me begging for me to place a hit (I had done "warn 1,2,3" on him multiple times to kill him and he kept coming back) and so I finally placed a hit on the guy standing next to me and then adverted "counter" when he said he was going to execute him. After I killed him he broke NLR by coming back and asking me why I had killed him, he called a sit and this is where Exultant really showed how shit of an admin he is. He had been doing the admin sits in a public "humiliation circle" in front of his friends and making it so they could chime into the sit and say their pieces and then he would make a verdict based on that and allow them to keep killing you since you would spawn in a cage over and over, he would also just sit there and joke with them while this happened AS IN GAME STAFF. I think this is blatant abuse and he should be reprimanded and/or removed from staff as this just shows how corrupt he acts and how immature he is when acting/playing as a staff member. I didn't know you could not counter a hit as I was told by another staff member that you can counter anything as any role. And seeing as this was my first punishment on the server I would say I follow the rules (have over 24 hours in game.) here are the screenshots btw. -Jesse Evidence (screenshots, video, chat log, etc. This is required!) here is the video proof of him lowering the ban from 4 days to 20 minutes (again sorry for our voices over the video we didnt know it was recording the discord chat as well) the moment starts at 3:40 ish in the video and plays to the end. you can see exultant say it will be a 4 day ban (he had killed a few cops in the white house supposedly) and then he lowers it to 20 minutes because his friend (who wasn't part of the sit but since sits were being taken inside their base was allowed to listen) asks him to. https://www.dropbox.com/s/xi7cia7zxgo49z1/Half Life Source 2018.07.15 - 00.56.59.03.DVR.mp4?dl=0 EDIT: at 2:00 in you can hear voren say that if the player admits to killing cops he will ask the admin to lower the sentence (again, voren was not part of this sit as he wasn't the one who got RDMed) EDIT 2: koromaru says that he gets to determine if the punishment is bad or good at 2:20 -------------------------------- https://www.dropbox.com/s/9z4top6y7ioywpf/Half Life Source 2018.07.15 - 01.02.35.05.DVR.mp4?dl=0# video showing exultant lying in this thread along with the screenshot of his lie in this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copton Chill Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Dude , all you have is a bunch of fences around you. A lot of players put signs on jailed players. The picture quality is very bad , can't make out who had owned those props. You provided no evidence of how @exultantmay or may not have broken NLR. Use the template atleast. There isn't even any screenshot of jailing you in the chat box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 umm, the sit happened on top of that roof inside the "minge public shaming" circle. Exultant didnt own the props but was taking the sits there inside the circle. I don't record gameplay and since I couldn't take a screenshot without being killed while inside the cage that was the best angle I could get. I never said Exultant broke NLR, I am saying he was being biased in his sits by doing them in a public "shaming circle" and moving you in front of the "shame circle" owners so they could say their piece in a sit that didn't involve them. And because the sit lasted 30 seconds with the only information of what I had done wrong coming from a player before the trial mod jailed me there to be mass RDM (while in the cage) I think its ridiculous that he is a trial mod. And that sign was on the fence proclaiming it to be a public shaming spot for the admins to jail people at. It was there before I got taken to a sit there and it is still there long after I left the game. I had seen multiple other people being taken to the circle to be jailed/have their admin sit there. I had my friend take more screenshots if it is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copton Chill Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 42 minutes ago, Jesse James said: " I never said Exultant broke NLR" 1 hour ago, Jesse James said: "After I killed him he broke NLR by coming back and asking me why I had killed him" Now you have changed your story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, Copton Chill said: Now you have changed your story. I added an edit so that its makes more sense. I even said "this is where exultant shows..." meaning THIS is where exultant comes into the story. but I understand not being clear enough. we have more evidence though, a video and a bunch of more screenshots because he rejoined and did the EXACT same thing to other people waiting on the video to upload then I will post it all here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 so this is just some of the screenshots showing he allowed people to kill you while you are jailed. we have a recording of him lowering a sentence from 4 day ban to 20 minutes jail because a player unrelated to the sit asked for him to. he also said on the recording that its fine they kill the jailed players. as you can see copton, I am NOT lying and this behavior/base/public shaming thing was and is happening before/after/during my sit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 also thought I would add this little bit, as you can see he says "jailed in the minge cage" as in Exultant had been doing this and allowing the players to chime in during sits and kill the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copton Chill Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jesse James said: also thought I would add this little bit, as you can see he says "jailed in the minge cage" as in Exultant had been doing this and allowing the players to chime in during sits and kill the players. I would like to see the part where he lets someone kill the jailed player. Anyone could have built over that jail since the roof can be used as a base. And anyone could have put signs over the jail. Only thing I can see Exultant did wrong is jail in a place that is buildable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Copton Chill said: I would like to see the part where he lets someone kill the jailed player. Anyone could have built over that jail since the roof can be used as a base. And anyone could have put signs over the jail. Only thing I can see Exultant did wrong is jail in a place that is buildable. the screenshots show where he allowed the person jailed to be shot by voren. if you watch that video that is from an unrelated case you can see exultant hanging around and jailing people there (also at the start the jew bloo or whatever his name is, is dead and was sniped by koromaru, you can tell from the blood on the fround, the dead body and the sniper) our video is being uploaded right now so it will take a few minutes for that to be posted here. just thought it was funny that an unrelated video also shows exultant being a terrible moderator by doing public sits and allowing RDM against jailed players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Copton Chill said: I would like to see the part where he lets someone kill the jailed player. Anyone could have built over that jail since the roof can be used as a base. And anyone could have put signs over the jail. Only thing I can see Exultant did wrong is jail in a place that is buildable. ALSO, you can see from all my screenshots and the video that he has jailed MULTIPLE people INSIDE their minge public shame base. so stop saying that "they built the signs etc after player got jailed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exultant Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 First, I would like to respond by. I never actually saw them killing I saw dead bodies that have been laying there. I never really thought anything about it. Plus i just had a spot so I can just jail people in one spot to make in easier. I wouid also like to state that I never meant to cause such a ruckus about a cage. it was practically just a big joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, exultant said: First, I would like to respond by. I never actually saw them killing I saw dead bodies that have been laying there. I never really thought anything about it. Plus i just had a spot so I can just jail people in one spot to make in easier. I wouid also like to state that I never meant to cause such a ruckus about a cage. it was practically just a big joke. the fact he kills people while you are standing nearby witnessing it is proof enough that you are lying about not knowing. my own screenshots show voren kill the jailed player with you literally 2cm from him. nothing was done about that. in my original screenshots I am dead inside the jail cage and you are hovering above watching. Dont worry though, as soon as the video gets uploaded (crappy upload speed on my friends behalf) it will show it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koromaru Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 yea sorry i mistook you for someone else based on where your jail was, its my bad, forget what i said, ps i removed the reply for that resone, my apologizes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Koromaru said: yea sorry i mistook you for someone else based on where your jail was, its my bad, forget what i said, ps i removed the reply for that resone, my apologizes no problem, I realized you were mistaking me for someone else (I agree that jew guy needs a longer ban) so that is why I added the edit. I will also remove that reply to yours then since it will be out of context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exultant Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 again, those are all just dead bodies. I've never seen them killed and that isn't really anything If your going to try to report a staff please record. It's just screenshots of me near dead bodies. As it could've been anyone who killed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, exultant said: again, those are all just dead bodies. I've never seen them killed and that isn't really anything If your going to try to report a staff please record. It's just screenshots of me near dead bodies. again, do not worry. the video is being uploaded. but you saw him kill multiple people and lying is just sad. SO many witnesses to this and you try and say you never saw it happen. just dont change your story when the video shows you blatantly lying here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koromaru Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 also yes we were killing people in the cages, BUT only if thay keept annoying people or as a joke. plus i put up that kos sign in case some a-hole started doing stuff like trying to kill people while in jail didn't think at the time we'd us it for what we did but even then there jailed thay shouldn't be taking items from there inventory so killing them would mean nothing thay don't lose anything no rp time, no cash, no items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Koromaru said: also yes we were killing people in the cages, BUT only if thay keept annoying people or as a joke. plus i put up that kos sign in case some a-hole started doing stuff like trying to kill people while in jail didn't think at the time we'd us it for what we did but even then there jailed thay shouldn't be taking items from there inventory so killing them would mean nothing thay don't lose anything no rp time, no cash, no items. technically I lost an amd 64 and a spas 12 but thats besides the point. whatever rules you broke by killing jailed players is not the point I am trying to make. its that a staff member should know better and stop acting so immature when doing his job as staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koromaru Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 he did only 2 sits that didn't concern me or voren inside the cage the rest he did outside the cage either in admin land or a neighboring building so that should not have effected his judgment in any of the sits, i don't know how he was during the sits so i cant say if he was mature or immature, and when he didn't have any valid sits he came and hung out with me and voren, so as far as i'm seeing it your saying that a staff member cant have fun during free time in game? please correct me if i'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchester2247 Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Throwing people into cage and allowing other people to shoot them over and over seems a bit over the top. Like how is that fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Koromaru said: he did only 2 sits that didn't concern me or voren inside the cage the rest he did outside the cage either in admin land or a neighboring building so that should not have effected his judgment in any of the sits, i don't know how he was during the sits so i cant say if he was mature or immature, and when he didn't have any valid sits he came and hung out with me and voren, so as far as i'm seeing it your saying that a staff member cant have fun during free time in game? please correct me if i'm wrong. well from our hard evidence alone there was at least 6 sits/jailed players that were inside your base. EDIT: also I apologize ahead of time for my voice in the recording. we were in a discord chat and I didnt think it recorded the discord as well as the game or else I wouldve shut the hell up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koromaru Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 yes JAILED inside the base not in the way of anyone, but he did not do any SITS inside the base other then 2 at the start after that he did them in admin land or a neighboring building. so i ask again cant a staff member have fun during free time in game? i emphasize please correct me if i'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 Just now, Koromaru said: yes JAILED inside the base not in the way of anyone, but he did not do any SITS inside the base other then 2 at the start after that he did them in admin land or a neighboring building. so i ask again cant a staff member have fun during free time in game? i emphasize please correct me if i'm wrong. he had my sit, and 3 other sits inside your base. none of which included you in any way shape or form. and as long as he isnt allowing other random players/friends who are not staff to chime into an admin sit then I have no beef, do whatever. he was on duty, allowing RDM against jailed players, changing punishment/jailing players based on your own input and generally not being a good example of staff. if by "fun during free time" you mean jailing players in a base he knows they will be harassed verbally and shot multiple times then no I dont think he should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse James Posted July 15, 2018 Author Share Posted July 15, 2018 https://www.dropbox.com/s/9z4top6y7ioywpf/Half Life Source 2018.07.15 - 01.02.35.05.DVR.mp4?dl=0# AND BOOM. showed exultant just lied in this thread and the major problem with the jailing inside the base/taking sits in the base. we have to keep editing the recording though to cut out all the useless shit so the part where he lowers a 4 day ban to 20 minutes on the suggestion from his friend is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koromaru Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 yes thay did not include me but thay did include voren, that and if anyone would have asked i'm sure he would have moved the sit to admin land but no one did ask, second if you would have read the kos sign you would have seen "KOS if Koromaru or his party don't like you" above the base so you saying RDM is false no one was RDM'ed in a jail by us, plus no one verbally harassed them and if anyone would of i would have shot them i don't like harassment and i will not accept anyone doing it, but if someone has been jailed because thay rdm'ed or ardm'ed then why should thay just sit up in the sky and wait to be unjailed, some of the people that were jailed had some fun in jail because of me and voren dicking around having some fun, i think the resone you don't like the cage or the fact Exultant was because voren had beef with you, and wanted to take out some anger and in witch case why go for Exultant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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