discordlunaa Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Your in-game name: Mia Staff members name: Insert White Name Staff member SteamID(http://steamidfinder.com/): idk Explain what happened: What happened before the sit: I was knife fighting big lighter, I crossfired someone (and adverted.) Afterward, I warned SIR SICKO in advert 3 times and then killed him. SIR SICKO made the sit saying I was rdming people. Insert denied me the right to provide proof of my innocence. He also ignored what I had to say during the sit, and in turn, did not check logs to prove my innocence. This sit was very poorly taken. I would expect this kind of sit from a T-Mod who isn't very familiar with sit procedures and server rules, but not from a Head Admin. Either Insert is a very poor staff member and he has been taking sits like this during his whole time as staff, or Insert is biased against me. This report does seem insignificant, but like I said, it's totally possible that Insert is taking all of his sits this way, in which case a manager might want to look into retraining. Some staff guidelines he broke that I can (somewhat) quote are: Do check and analyze logs Let both parties tell their side Keep in mind, after the sit, I reiterated the fact that I had proof of crossfire and that I adverted warn and that he didn't check logs for it, and he still didn't do anything. He didn't say anything or bring me back to the sit room. This proves this was in no way a misunderstanding, he actually thought this sit was taken correctly. Evidence (screenshots, video, chat log, etc. This is required! Saying "just check server logs" isn't evidence.) (You can even see in my evidence that I adverted crossfire!) https://youtu.be/78-M0Wt5EtQ that noise in the background, just ignore it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChabulaChoo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 +Support -Clear evidence that he did not let you show proof that it was crossfire. -It clearly shows that you killed him with 3 warnings. -There was no reason to get jailed for killing that guy... Theres were 3 warnings. -Clear evidence that the head admin can't check the logs properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert White Name Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 You should be banned you killed bic many times in front of me and I decided not to punish you for them and your kills on haw and a few others with no reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Lighter Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 +support clear evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discordlunaa Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Insert White Name said: You should be banned you killed bic many times in front of me and I decided not to punish you for them and your kills on haw and a few others with no reason This is what I'm talking about. This attitude you have is the reason why you took my sit incorrectly. Bic repeatedly left spawn and either stabbed me or shot me, and I would kill him in return. Not to mention if I did RDM bic he would be cool with it since we're friends. That's why i didnt report him for ARDM/RDM. This just proves that you jump to conclusions when it comes to staffing. Your assumptions are the exact reason why people get fasley banned. From what I can tell by how you treat staffing, you are incredibly unfamiliar with how sits should be taken. As a head admin, you should be embarrassed. Anyway now that I got that out of the way, your little comment on how I "should be banned" does not excuse the sit. You took the sit poorly from a staff member perspective. It's very easy to follow staff guidelines, and it's very easy to tell you don't like me. Do as the staff guidelines say and put your hatred toward me aside, and admit you took my sit poorly. Edit: I know you have a lot of pride when it comes to staffing, it comes with the high rank. I've been there. Sometimes it's easier to just admit you fucked up rather than bring more attention to the situation. This likely won't even result in a staff strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Lighter Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 insert has always been a shit staff member tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert White Name Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 I'd like to point out that I did see that you were shot by him a few times and disregarded those but you still killed him mutable of times and just because you are "friends" does not make it any less RDM I saw that you were having fun with one another and choose not to punish you for anymore then two of the kills on him. And even if he was cool with it dose not mean that someone else's experience was not ruined by aimlessly knifing each other in the road encouraging other people to potentially join in and think it's fine to go and knifes people randomly. Edit: I have no bias against you nor did I even know that you were who you are when I took the sit however that would not have changed the outcome out the sit regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stinnson Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, discordlunaa said: This likely won't even result in a staff strike. Literally won't, other then a little one on one talk with bas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discordlunaa Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Insert White Name said: I'd like to point out that I did see that you were shot by him a few times and disregarded those but you still killed him mutable of times and just because you are "friends" does not make it any less RDM I saw that you were having fun with one another and choose not to punish you for anymore then two of the kills on him. And even if he was cool with it dose not mean that someone else's experience was not ruined by aimlessly knifing each other in the road encouraging other people to potentially join in and think it's fine to go and knifes people randomly. Sadly you can't back any of this up because you didn't check logs! You have no idea if I killed him without damage to me first. If you wanted me punished for his kills you would have said so in the sit, so please refrain from bringing up his kills because it has nothing to do with this report. I was jailed for the crossfire on the hitman and the kill on SIR SICKO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChabulaChoo Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mark Stinnson said: Literally won't, other then a little one on one talk with bas Yeah, its kind of retarded how a staff can get reported for something serious and it only results in one message from the manager. They need to start doing something for staff that break rules and get reported on the forums. The managers and higher ups should do more then say "accepted staff member will be talked to". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Lighter Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, ChabulaChoo said: Yeah, its kind of retarded how a staff can get reported for something serious and it only results in one message from the manager. They need to start doing something for staff that break rules and get reported on the forums. May the managers and higher ups should do more then say "accepted staff member will be talked to". I agree. yet someone like me gets demoted for breaking a guideline that wasn't part of my training but was implemented before my training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 well Basilisk is to nice so the mbrp staff team is full of abusers and bitches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discordlunaa Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, ChabulaChoo said: Yeah, its kind of retarded how a staff can get reported for something serious and it only results in one message from the manager. They need to start doing something for staff that break rules and get reported on the forums. The managers and higher ups should do more then say "accepted staff member will be talked to". I was never one to include myself in this argument, but when you put it like that, you're right... When's the last time you've seen an accepted staff report end in a strike or demotion? Definitely had to have been damp to do it last. I was actually talking with people in Exhibition discord and they were implying that staff guidelines are just "recommended" but not enforced. Why in the world shouldn't staff guidelines be enforced?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, discordlunaa said: I was never one to include myself in this argument, but when you put it like that, you're right... When's the last time you've seen an accepted staff report end in a strike or demotion? Definitely had to have been damp to do it last. I was actually talking with people in Exhibition discord and they were implying that staff guidelines are just "recommended" but not enforced. Why in the world shouldn't staff guidelines be enforced?? fr tho they are called guidelines for a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trofiアニメ Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 +/- this is a shit situation, and who plays gmod while getting head bruh. I hope that was ASMR and not what I said before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexyzs Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Insert White Name said: You should be banned you killed bic many times in front of me and I decided not to punish you for them This still insists that you did the punishment wrong, you should have taken your time during the sit. +Support -The staff member didn't do the sit correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jush Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Accepted Staff member will be dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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