sad memes Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Your in-game name: sadmemes Staff members name: celstial Staff member SteamID(http://steamidfinder.com/): STEAM_0:1:59157170 Explain what happened: they were taking sits as prez not letting people raid him Evidence (screenshots, video, chat log, etc. This is required! Saying "just check server logs" isn't evidence.) cel_admin_abuse.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yumi Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 +/- Support Yeah he did take sits while mayor and that's UNACCEPTABLE, he may just have not known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sad memes Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Yumi said: +/- Support Yeah he did take sits while mayor and that's UNACCEPTABLE, he may just have not known. True, but he’s a moderater so it’s more unacceptable that he would not know that, to me at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nota Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, sad memes said: True, but he’s a moderater so it’s more unacceptable that he would not know that, to me at least Moderators still a new/ low end rank. Fuck ups happen and you learn by your mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Migos. Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 +/- support clear evidence of celestial taking a sit as president, but he probably didn't know u couldn't as president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellie Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 +Support Guy should've known, he's been mod for almost 2 months now.... there's no excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellie Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Just now, Celestial said: Quick question, can you direct me where in the staff handbook this rule is written? Or how I should be informed of how this is unacceptable? It doesn't state this in the handbook but someone has already gotten in trouble for this while you have been staff. (You probably won't get striked for this, just a talking to if anything.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Frank Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Imma be real with you, this rule makes sense but since it's not in the handbook -Support. Fix the handbook, don't punish the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 +support should have known this he has been staff for 2 months no reason he cant follow the guidlines 8 hours ago, Robert Frank said: Imma be real with you, this rule makes sense but since it's not in the handbook -Support. Fix the handbook, don't punish the player. its because if he is getting WH raided and he is in admin not there and also that job is limited really hard its hard to get it and if he is taking sits and not doing his job people will get annoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awex Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Neutral Gonna be honest he should have known but then again it is not stated in the handbook for what ever reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Frank Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 8 hours ago, SaintG4Life said: its because if he is getting WH raided and he is in admin not there and also that job is limited really hard its hard to get it and if he is taking sits and not doing his job people will get annoyed and that's why I said it makes sense to be a rule. I was never trained on this rule though and assume he wasn't either. If his logic was no other staff are taking sits so he needed to, changing jobs could have slipped his mind and honestly it's not that big of a deal. It's clearly not worth a staff report in my opinion, just a clarification in the staff handbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestial Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Robert Frank said: and that's why I said it makes sense to be a rule. I was never trained on this rule though and assume he wasn't either. If his logic was no other staff are taking sits so he needed to, changing jobs could have slipped his mind and honestly it's not that big of a deal. It's clearly not worth a staff report in my opinion, just a clarification in the staff handbook. The rules even say I have to be based in the WH as President. It doesn't say I can't ever leave the WH. Don't know why I should have to go off how other staff before me were punished when it's not my job, nor theirs to tell me a "rule" that's never explicitly stated in any rulebook, staff or otherwise. If you're a staff member and you think this is something I should be punished for, I suggest rethinking your role in Exhibition. One of our very own guidelines says to not punish based off assumption. So why do I see staff assuming that I should have known better just because of my time staffing? Follow the guidelines you agreed to, and carry yourselves better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Frank Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Celestial said: The rules even say I have to be based in the WH as President. It doesn't say I can't ever leave the WH. Don't know why I should have to go off how other staff before me were punished when it's not my job, nor theirs to tell me a "rule" that's never explicitly stated in any rulebook, staff or otherwise. If you're a staff member and you think this is something I should be punished for, I suggest rethinking your role in Exhibition. One of our very own guidelines says to not punish based off assumption. So why do I see staff assuming that I should have known better just because of my time staffing? Follow the guidelines you agreed to, and carry yourselves better. Exactly my thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapzy Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 - Support If the rule is not stated in the Staff guidelines, then Celestial should not be punished for it. However, it needs to be added to the staff guidelines in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🔪SEMATARY GRAVE MAN🔪 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Why would it matter what job the staff member is taking sits on, he returns himself after the sit to his position and the raid still goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awex Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 12 hours ago, The Cenobite said: Why would it matter what job the staff member is taking sits on, he returns himself after the sit to his position and the raid still goes on. This could give him a advantage as he could easily come up behind them without them even knowing hes there and kill them. Also, if his sit is going on for to long it could last the max raid time making it so he cant be killed. These are the 2 main reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestial Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Ryan ツ said: +Support he should know by now that he can’t take sits as president plus Wh was being raided when you took that sit so it’s even worse Yo Administrator. Show me that rule that says I can't do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yumi Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 20 minutes ago, Celestial said: Yo Administrator. Show me that rule that says I can't do that Bruh you’re pulling the rule card. You made a mistake and now you know. All good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestial Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Yumi said: Bruh you’re pulling the rule card. You made a mistake and now you know. All good I'd just like to know where this says literally anywhere, whether implied or not that I can't do what I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Frank Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Crazy how the only way you were supposed to know this rule was from one specific staff report. Are we supposed to remember the details of every staff report? I'm very active on forums and can't say I remember it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestial Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 58 minutes ago, Robert Frank said: Crazy how the only way you were supposed to know this rule was from one specific staff report. Are we supposed to remember the details of every staff report? I'm very active on forums and can't say I remember it either. You wanna know what's funny? I had a DM argument with Ellie, and she said it wasn't from a staff report. Just one of the other staff was told off for it during my time as staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellie Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 @Celestial @Robert Frank Stop arguing on a staff report. It's unprofessional and shows how immature y'all are; you're unwilling to take responsibility for a mistake that you made. Man up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celestial Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 hours ago, ellie said: @Celestial @Robert Frank Stop arguing on a staff report. It's unprofessional and shows how immature y'all are; you're unwilling to take responsibility for a mistake that you made. Man up. Unwilling to accept punishment for an unwritten, and undiscussed rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Frank Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 3 hours ago, ellie said: @Celestial @Robert Frank Stop arguing on a staff report. It's unprofessional and shows how immature y'all are; you're unwilling to take responsibility for a mistake that you made. Man up. This isn't an application, it's a staff report. You can discuss here and defend your actions. That being said I think all that can be said has been said and now it's up to Findog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🔪SEMATARY GRAVE MAN🔪 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Robert Frank said: This isn't an application, it's a staff report. You can discuss here and defend your actions. That being said I think all that can be said has been said and now it's up to Findog Defence, Defence, Defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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