Jush Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Your in-game name: Jush Staff members name: Ling Staff member SteamID(http://steamidfinder.com/): STEAM_0:1:13572868 Explain what happened: I raided Nick and Lings base after I did that I had a full raid bag that I wanted to give away to Patches, a person that I knew. As I was dropping it for him, Nick grabs the raid bag and runs into spawn, which is frpx2. He makes a sit and almost immediately LING takes it (which is surprising since staff are lazy). In the sit I was asked why I killed Nick, I said he stole my raid bag. Ling immediately takes his side. Ling then proceeds to ask for proof from me instead of Nick. I say I don't need proof if Nick doesn't have any either since its a he/she said sit. Then Ling says that nothing shows up in logs (which according to a staff member there aren't any logs for it). I then tell Ling that I dont need proof since its a he/she said sit and that I shouldn't be jailed but he still does it anyways. Also I realized that I didn't have enough storage and the cause of the sit (the not rdm) didn't save since its a 20 minute clip which is bigger than the 6 minute clip but it doesn't matter if I did or didn't rdm him because it was still a he/she said sit and I was jailed without any evidence. Also the random blackouts or cuts are because I tabbed out and had other apps open. Evidence (screenshots, video, chat log, etc. This is required! Saying "just check server logs" isn't evidence.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Rawr Kills Mice Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 +support def seems like he was jailed without evidence whatsoever @LING gonna need your perspective tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trippy/Cardigan Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 +support Lmfao wtf is this, I really hope this isn't what staff has turned into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeze ツ Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 So, yes you needed a clip to prove he really stole your raid bag, since PickUp logs doesn't work with raid bags. But, the other player lied in the sit, and I was here when he stole the raid bag (I don't have evidence that he stole it tho). +/- Support. It's not LING's fault, if Nick wouldn't have lied about the fact he stole your raid bag, LING wouldn't have punished you for RDM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jush Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, freezeツ －𝘾𝙚𝙧𝙩𝙞𝙛𝙞𝙚𝙙 𝓝𝓟𝓒 said: +/- Support. It's not LING's fault, if Nick wouldn't have lied about the fact he stole your raid bag, LING wouldn't have punished you for RDM. Wdym its not LINGs fault, Ling is the staff member, a senior mod at that, and in the clip Nick even says "its up to you" The dude is at fault. 5 minutes ago, freezeツ －𝘾𝙚𝙧𝙩𝙞𝙛𝙞𝙚𝙙 𝓝𝓟𝓒 said: So, yes you needed a clip to prove he really stole your raid bag, since PickUp logs doesn't work with raid bags. I don't need to provide clips (I only need to if the person who made the sit actually has "proof") since I am not the one making the sit when its a he/she said sit. And as far as I know raid bags hasn't worked since it got released so that should be common knowledge to a senior mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeze ツ Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jush said: Wdym its not LINGs fault, Ling is the staff member, a senior mod at that, and in the clip Nick even says "its up to you" The dude is at fault. I don't need to provide clips (I only need to if the person who made the sit actually has "proof") since I am not the one making the sit when its a he/she said sit. And as far as I know raid bags hasn't worked since it got released so that should be common knowledge to a senior mod. thats not cap that Nick should have showed a clip to LING, but yeah im still gonna keep my +/- support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzed Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I only am going to say -SUPPORT in punishment for LING (staff strike). Maybe just a teaching over something? READ WHY BELOW Nick lied about stealing the raid bag. Manager shows people's inventories and he had a raid bag at time of death. He also didn't advert steal anywhere around 01:14:34 You taking the punishment is dumb I agree. It isn't RDM as you were trying to get something that got stolen from you back. You are KOS to the victim being stolen from. They are not KOS to you until they do damage to you first. I think Nick should be given a FRP punishment definitely with a lying in sit punishment too and your record should be wiped of the Jail from the kill. Ling doesn't need a staff strike from this, seems like a simple mistake and maybe he didn't know too much about inventory checks or was being lazy.. HOWEVER Jush, you should've supplied a clip on this staff report of Nick taking the bag as what if he actually fought with his words that he, "already had a raid bag". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vexyzs Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 +Support -Ling jumped conclusions and assumed that you killed nick for no reason when really he couldn't prove you were in the wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trippy/Cardigan Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 5 hours ago, freezeツ －𝘾𝙚𝙧𝙩𝙞𝙛𝙞𝙚𝙙 𝓝𝓟𝓒 said: So, yes you needed a clip to prove he really stole your raid bag, since PickUp logs doesn't work with raid bags. But, the other player lied in the sit, and I was here when he stole the raid bag (I don't have evidence that he stole it tho). +/- Support. It's not LING's fault, if Nick wouldn't have lied about the fact he stole your raid bag, LING wouldn't have punished you for RDM. how the fuck did you get admin if this is your mindset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LING Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 he was saying that he had a clip and thats what he said in chat but he refused to show the clip so then i proceeded to jail him jush i dont really care if you raided me im not mad over that i just take sits no matter what its about so you really saying that (which is surprising since staff are lazy) does not really mean anything tbh i clipped the whole sit aswell and if you would like to see my perspective then you can ''if you have the clip of him taking the raid bag i would like to see it'' thats what i said in the clip itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Autist Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 - Support: Bad evidence Jush said that he got a clip but dont need to show it.... If you have the clip you can use it as evidence agains Nick, but Jush chose not to. At the end of the day the logs only shows that you killed Nick as a rdm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woona Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 +support taking a side without double checking if its true manager shows what people are holding at time of death also technically speaking nick is breaking nlr for trying to steal back his stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 +support he could have used rdm manager to check with this sitatuion + being biased this is his second time doing this should be striked as its not lings first time fucking up 3 hours ago, Mr. Autist said: At the end of the day the logs only shows that you killed Nick as a rdm. if you actually read through the staff report you can see that in logs nick was in the wrong and jush was right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamedF0x Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 +support The situation should've been checked better. I guess this is something that happens when people lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 +support ling is a nice guy, but he told me he was in the wrong after watching the clip about 12 hours after the staff report. This could have been handled differently of course. nick is also in the wrong here for lying about taking the raid bag as fuzed said. there are things you can do. no sit should have been made to begin with nick also shouldn’t have been snappy at jush +support in full. Ling handled the situation wrongly and should be taught how to handle a situation like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damplips Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Accepted Staff member will be dealt with accordingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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